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 The above is contrary to No. 11b of [[https://deming.org/demings-14-points-for-management/|Deming’s 14 Points for Management]]...
-<blockquote>//11b. Eliminate management by objective. Eliminate management by numbers, numerical goals. Substitute leadership.//</blockquote>
+<blockquote>//11b. Eliminate __management by objective__. Eliminate management by numbers, __numerical goals__. Substitute leadership.//</blockquote>
-I've never seen a single instance of a "Quality Policy", or lack thereof, have any impact on the QMS at all.
+The primary reasons that Deming opposed “management by objective” are:
+  - The “objectives” are typically driven by emotion rather than data, are often outside of the [[:downloads#unilateral_cp-cpk_calculator|process's capability]]… and are therefore unachievable. This results in the workers being blamed rather than management focusing on improving the processes.
+  - When an “objective” is achieved, management celebrates success (e.g., the pizza party), losing sight of the true goal… which is continual improvement.
+My experiences in performing ISO 9001 & AS91xx audits over the past 25 years support Deming's concerns.
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