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| articles:types_of_audits [2020/06/24 10:57] – [Conclusion] rrandall | articles:types_of_audits [2020/10/24 11:36] – [Types of Audits] rrandall |
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| b. is EFFECTIVELY implemented and maintained.</blockquote> | b. is EFFECTIVELY implemented and maintained.</blockquote> |
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| Largely due to "indoctrination" (from the registrars) in how to think about ISO 9001 & AS9100, many auditors consider a "process-based" audit to be the ONLY way possible to determine "//whether the quality management system is effectively implemented and maintained//”. This was further supported by an "opinion" provided in the [[https://asq.org/quality-resources/iso-9001/us-tc176|US TC 176 - TG22 - Interpretations]] (Read: [[articles:re-writing_iso_9001_through_interpretation|Re-writing ISO 9001:2015... through Interpretation]]). | Largely due to "indoctrination" (from the registrars) in how to think about ISO 9001 & AS9100, many auditors consider a "process-based" audit to be the ONLY way possible to determine "//whether the quality management system is effectively implemented and maintained//”. This was further supported by a "non-binding" opinion provided in the [[https://asq.org/quality-resources/iso-9001/us-tc176|US TC 176 - TG22 - Interpretations]] (Read: [[articles:re-writing_iso_9001_through_interpretation|Re-writing ISO 9001:2015... through Interpretation]]). |
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| However, is this true? | However, is this true? |
| 5 - The official ISO document "[[https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/archive/pdf/en/iso9001-2015-process-appr.pdf|The Process Approach in ISO 9001:2015]]" describes the process approach toward the QMS WITHOUT requiring (or even mentioning) a “process-based” internal audit. | 5 - The official ISO document "[[https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/archive/pdf/en/iso9001-2015-process-appr.pdf|The Process Approach in ISO 9001:2015]]" describes the process approach toward the QMS WITHOUT requiring (or even mentioning) a “process-based” internal audit. |
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| The above should be sufficient ammunition to "appeal" this type of nonconformity. | The above should be sufficient information to "appeal" this type of invalid nonconformity. |
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| The point is that auditors should be there to verify compliance "actual" requirements. Not imagining requirements where none exist. | The point is that auditors should be there to verify compliance with "actual" requirements. Not imagine requirements where none exists. |
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